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Sian Siro's avatar

I've been reading tripe like this for forty years now from western women who learned they could criticize "man" in the West, then decided to use that privilege to defend overseas cultures they presumably had a bit of a fetish for...but so little knowledge of.

The fact you find the male piece "unremarkable" suggests a limited engagement with its wonders (if that’s because you are not straight, you are VERY lucky you are in the terribly oppressed male run white West.) You presumably exist because of a very unremarkable one.

And indeed, this very limited perspective with the piece in question seems to limit your worldview by analog - because this could be the most inane pieces I’ve ever read from a pretty-privilege, radical theorist (oh what FUN we have thinking for free in our universities!!!) lady of the West:

Why don't Iranian women agree with your 'social theory' spewing from the comforts of the Univ of London?

How do JK Rowling and Clare Fox somehow represent all women’s views?

Why would Western leaders attack powers with nukes? They, unlike some, aren't stupid.

Because the Taliban won, we should watch Iran grow nukes and leave Iranians in hell? (If one is en route to London after you get next years salary bonus, what would you do? Say, “hey I have an idea, its Derrida mixed with some von Clausewitz…”)

Most of all, no geopolitical knowledge. You need to talk to men more. You need to read history more. You need to understand politics. And you need to study Islam and the Middle East more away from a Foucauldian lens.

Wosrt, the utter hypocrisy to take this radical stance and write it out while living off our taxpayer.

And last, you are Foucauldian?? Are you 21? Even the French find this type of 1960s pedophiliac dirge laughable now, yet its your Procrustean Bed framework for your intellectual vomit? Makes me sick.

Galina Lewan's avatar

Your post is a good example that the western propaganda is of high quality. And also, why the US is the most dangerous country in the world.

You are separated from the rest of the world by oceans, have friendly neighbors, over 800 military bases around the world, you spend as much on military as 9 other largest militaries in the world, and you feel that somebody is going to to come to hurt you?

Your CIA trained Osama bin Laden, installed Saddam in power, gave him chemical weapons and told him where to use them against Iran, etc. Since WWI, CIA supported over 88 coups, including in democratic Iran (1953) and democratic Chili (1978) to install brutal dictators. To install ISIS in secular Syria in 2025.

Now the United States of Israel are paying with your tax money for genocide of indigenous peoples in Palestine to clear the land for the European Jews, you know, the enlightened type, who created an apartheid state on stolen land and who rape Palestinian women and men in Israel prisons. Over 400,000 Palestinians are missing (under rubble?) over 50,000 killed, half of them children.

Are you fine with that? Do Palestinian women in democratic Israel prisons need protection from rape or only women in the designated hellhole countries?

Unfortunately, the ideas about the literacy you present are not supported by the facts. China, Russia and Iran have a higher literacy rate than the US. Western universities are full of scholars from Russia, China , Iran, South Africa, etc., especially in STEM subjects. They are invited by the American universities. Many of them are going back because the conditions for research in their countries have improved.

As for the diversity, you might want to know that the Supreme Leader of Iran is not Persian - the majority - but an Azeri - an ethnic minority, the Defense Minister of Russia Sergei Shojgu is from Tuva, an Asian autonomous republic in Russia (there is a number autonomous ethnic republics in Russia), and there are plenty of Muslims in leadership in China. Somehow they have been doing this for centuries before the West invented “diversity” a couple years ago.

Literacy, mathematics, astronomy, medicine came to the West from Asia.

The West does not need protection from “the others”. It needs to stop invading, bombing, regime changing, lecturing, sanctioning, telling everybody how to live their lives. Divide and rule. Are these behaviors of high or low enlightenment traditions nations?

Btw, public universities are free in Russia and Iran, and women more than 50% of students. Also, Russian women have a 3 year of maternity leave, half of it paid.

Your ideas about the world are based in not in reality, but created by the “controlled narrative” of corporate media serving the elites.

As long as Americans are duped by the narrative that they live in the best country in the world, and everyone on the planet envies them, they are going to support the Military industrial complex profits and endless wars.

The liberal democracy is a perfect slogan for the globalist elites to send jobs abroad and to start new wars for profit.

President Trump’s efforts to change the schizophrenic foreign policy, to control the runaway deep state and NGOs regime change machine are welcomed by most countries in the world.

People of world want peace and stability. And here we agree.

President Trumps effort to move the country away from the schizophrenic foreign policy are welcomed all around the world.

Sian Siro's avatar

Ok my dear. I've of course been reading dirge like this for three decades now, from privileged radical woke westerners, or people of other origin who moan while they live here and suck on the teat of western genius.

Now:

1 - Dangerous? The US? Lets get you a little map out now and show you Russia, China, Mexico (Narcostate?), India (rwing fundy Hindus?) and sexy swarthy old Iran that the woke now defend so. Do you live in Iran? I hope so.

2 - I am not separated from any world. I am not in Utah. I have lived in Europe and other continents for decades. What are you assuming?

3 - Hegemon? Look it up. You have to spend to defend. You prefer Chinas military. I ask you go there and reply to me from there.

4 - I have taught the CIAs antics for decades. So have tens of thousands of western teachers. We are honest about our history here you see. We see both the good and the bad. And it was all necessary anyway to stop you becoming Communist anyway, wherever you are. Thanks for sharing those wikipedia facts you just learned about. Noam Chomsky wrote about all that 30 years ago, in western media! on our TV. In our schools. oh pray what news you have there!

5 - I feel terrible for Palestinian women. They are not the ones being raped Ms. Hamas.

6 - I am not referring to literacy rates today. For the past 300 years the West has been miles ahead on literacy. Thats why we invent everything. Tools that you use, like this laptop or smartphone, to argue with. And anyway, literacy rates in the West ARE far higher, particularly for women. And you know how they rose if at all in the last century elsewhere? books, printing presses, pc's, western tools. We even gave you the words with which to criticize us.

Its the West against the rest now. Its easy to see who'll win. Enjoy.

7 - What are talking about? How can Americans be duped by a narrative? We are almost at civil war we differ so much. In blue states we have opposing narratives, let alone in red ones. Just another third worlder using Substack wishing you could visit. Nobody I know thinks the US is the best country in the world. Are you 9? How would you even define that? You saw that on Tiktok China Russia media I assume.

8 - You hate liberal democracy? What is your system Indigineity? Socialism? Great ideas. Or autocratic patriarchic corruption. Make your choice. Its our system, or those.

Galina Lewan's avatar

You have thin skin. You are not able to have a discussion. You have been trying to put me in a box of your limited understanding of the world, and trying to insult me or to provoke me to prove how superior you are. It’s impossible.

Your use of slogans is a sign of hypocrisy. The language you are using is a language of the bully.

If you lived in other countries, you might have noticed that there are plenty of content people. They want you to live them alone.

But you are still a victim, you want to protect yourself or the liberal democracy empire that doesn’t have to abide by the international laws? What you call international adventurism has a name of “unprovoked war of aggression” and is a crime. Designing your country a liberal democracy doesn’t give you a right to stomp around the world leaving death and destruction. Or to speak for the Iranian or other women.

Speak for yourself.

Do whatever you want in your country. Leave the world alone, it’s not yours to rule or to speak for.

Sian Siro's avatar

How can you know my skin? My country?

This is all ad hominem.

I just realized I am debating myself at 19.

Enjoy your 3rd world patriarchy. Perhaps start a substack there.

Galina Lewan's avatar

I don’t know if you are aware of your language and the ideas you expressed. What do you expect if you claim your Western right to have bombed other countries and the women there for “their own” good?

The thin skin in my comment means your high sensitivity to criticism because of your furious replies and personal attacks on me. I just provided some facts you don’t seem to know and opinions that your media are not going to report. As long as the US continues to cling to exceptionalism and hegemony there will be no peace in the world.

May peace be with you. Sincerely.

Sian Siro's avatar

Saying the west is virtuous and should (now) be defended is not Nazism or white supremacy. Thats the slippery slope fallacy Galina.

I"m not sensitive. I make a living arguing.

The US doesn't cling to exceptionalism. How can 365m people cling to one thing? You know nothing of the US and its diversity. have you been? Does Mexico cling to something? Ghana? Ireland? What do you even mean??

Please, tell me where you are. Then I can teach you about your own country's sad hypocritical pity party indoctrination you are exhibiting.

You are jealous of the West/US. That is the non western philosophy since we gave you Foucault, Marx, Said and Guevara...we even give you your thoughts.

I wish you peace too. The US is most likely to protect you. You just dont see it on your autocratic propaganda social media feed.

Galina Lewan's avatar

Good article. Western savior complex is not limited to bombing countries for freedom and democracy. It also extends to killing women and their families for women’s rights. Obviously, arrogance and hubris are not limited to creatures with the discussed piece of flesh.

Sian Siro's avatar

"Western savior complex" ? ie. The West is criticized for even trying to help? Just as it is the only culture ever to have a complex consideration of others while dominant? and the fact it is/has been so superior militarily, technologically, psychologically (genderly??) etc? and we are not supposed to notice it?

If we bomb you, its for a good reason. If women and kids get killed, they are probably mixed in with spineless men of arms. In the West our women ask to join the military.

Agree with the last sentence. All humans act much the same. Some cultures are just far superior in many ways. We all know which culture that is, has been for 250 yrs.

Galina Lewan's avatar

You express your supremacy with absolute conviction. „You even gave us our thoughts” - that is rich! And you protect us from what? Zombie apocalypse? I will skip suggesting anything including hallucinations.

That rich experience of talking to you makes it very easy to imagine how talking to a German Nazi would feel. But no „sieg heil” from us. Ignorance is not a bliss, it’s a curse.

Sian Siro's avatar

What is this supremacy of mine? I would bet my 9th credit card bill you have more privilege than I. You just paint in a picture of Jeff Bezos for anyone who is not crying for the non-west.

Again, you won't admit where you live because your only choices for defense are autocracies, dictators or Islamists. Which is your fetish Galina? - while you parrot your distant disdain for the region on earth that is the source of modern rights, rule of law, free education, womens rights, yup, womens rights?

Not even sure what the Nazi ref is. Godwins Law, yawn....

Please take away all of these below from your life. Then send me a smoke signal. Add vaccines, water filtration, antibiotics....again, hate us from afar, but you are welcome. We look forward to your contribution to civilization, aside from supposed virtues of extended families and nice days in the sun doing nothing...

https://europeisnotdead.com/european-inventions/#:~:text=Think%20about%20great%20inventions%20such,continuous%20aspiration%20for%20innovation%20and

Galina Lewan's avatar

You need to learn your history from other sources than your controlled narrative propaganda machine.

There was a man in gray suit in Germany who told his people they were superior and were destined to rule the world. We all know the result for them and the world.

What makes you believe that you shall rule the world?

Judging by „we tried” the result might be similar.

Sian Siro's avatar

Instead of a phd in the field and numerous books published. Sure, lmk where to go Galina? MSNBC? Tiktok? That pro Palestine protest slogan you read twice? Can't wait to hear your references.

I'm not even sure what you mean. Oh I see. You replied to the wrong thread. Hm. Details I suppose aren't for everyone.

Nazism was insane, an offshoot of 19th C Social Darwinism, a deranged view that was actual white supremacy (even then among a minority in Germany, let alone. the West).

Western culture's non racial, absolutely cultural, superiority is impossible to refute. Please, share with me your views on the worlds cultures and their incredible traits - beyond vacation caricatures (so nice those people in the Middle East, oh the food in China, those African kids running around our luxury spa in the jungle...ohhh!!)...- actually tell me what makes any nonwestern cultures superior?

And then, please note you are always welcome to go stay there for good. Fly one of our planes out...see how the men there treat Galinas. In the oh so woke nonWest.

Galina Lewan's avatar

I do not subscribe to the channel where you posted. I replied in the only window for comments available to me at that time.

You projected your own ideas on me. I am going to disregard them.

Your view of the world through the suprematist lens is troubling and dangerous to the rest of the world.

I’ve met enough of western PhDs, including from the Ivy League universities, who are ignorant, arrogant and wright their dissertations about other countries without ever visiting the country, speaking their language or understanding their culture.

Then they move to the carriers in “think tanks”, where they collectively hallucinate about western hegemony without borders and no end in sight. It pays well, and there is no accountability.

To go back to your idea of bombing inferior countries and killing women and children “for their own good” and “to help”.

Libya is a good example. Under Gaddafi, Libya was a stable country living in peace with the highest standard of living in Africa. School education was compulsory for children, including girls. Universities were open to women. Medical care was free. (The same was true for Syria and Iraq). A young family received $10,000 from the state to buy a house.

When, under the supervision of the self proclaimed champion for women’s rights Hillary Clinton, and with the indispensable help from the CIA, Gaddafi was murdered, all of that disappeared. There is a civil war funded by foreign entities. No peace, no stability. Trafficked women are being sold at the open markets.

“Mission accomplished”: the western corporations got access to their oil with the profits going west.

Should they thank you personally for your support of the regime change and the “progress” in their lives? I would speculate that they would love to look you in the eyes.

Is your current project is liberating Iranian women? They are 50% of the university and 70% of STEM students. Are you sure they are ready to fight and die for the right to walk around half naked like women in America? According to your thinking, you know best what they need.

The question is still there: What made you believe that you shall rule the world?

Sian Siro's avatar

Its not supremacist. Its realist. I nor anybody else left or right wants to dominate or control or colonize other parts of the world as all did in the past. I just want people to stop praising hellholes that rape women for fun while insulting the west, and western men, out of privilege.

I agree with you on western PhDs, many of them. But um you prefer your uneducated leering trolls from non western non universities? Great. We have a deal then. You live there. We live here.

Just like women, black people, gays, trans etc, 'western PhDs' are diverse and you can't generalize from the two you met in passing.

I do not have an idea of bombing inferior countries. I want peace. But if rwing Islamist medieval patriarchies attack us, well, again, like the author here, watch some sports, talk to some men - you get it back.

You think LIbya was fine before the US got involved? Sure. Sure. Mr Qaddafi and his kind hearted social policies. Nuts. But agree any US involvement in these sad places is always a mess. I'm not defending adventurism. I am defending the West.

Not sure I'm ruling the world. I am however aware who you, and I, and Iranian women, want dominating the world - the Western liberal democratic contract law rule of low Enlightenment tradition nations. The only reason you can even spell these words is the literacy afforded on the world from the West. (Yes I know there was literacy elsewhere, 1%, male. Not you.). You're welcome.

If you feel this way I assume you are in Iran. Enjoy. Or China. Or Russia. Or some other place that makes the West seem like heaven. "Where you can say or write you want without retaliation."

Eric Francis's avatar

<< quite frankly, a small piece of unremarkable flesh >> without which humanity would not exist...now what exactly is the clit for?

Sian Siro's avatar

1. What would you have done after Oct 7 if we made you Queen?

2. If these horrible men and women are using "rape" or women's rights as a justification for ousting the worst regime in the Middle East, so what? Its a means to an end.

3. Why are they doing this? Oil? ie. your food, heating, car, gasoline, plastics and everything else you live off?